The Glock 19X is NOT part of the Gen 5 family

Glock logoI see people commenting on some sites and in some social networking sites that the Glock 19X pistol is part of the Gen 5 line. It’s technically not, and for some very valid reasons. I’ve compiled this list of more than a dozen reasons why it’s not:

  1. No “Gen 5” on left side of slide
  2. No “Gen 5” on case label
  3. It doesn’t have a Gen 5 sku number (second digit would be an ‘A’ for Gen 5).
  4. Not listed as Gen 5 on individual product page (https://us.glock.com/products/model/g19x)
  5. Not listed as Gen 5 on full product page (https://us.glock.com/products/)
  6. Not listed as Gen 5 on 19X page (https://19x.glock.us)
  7. Not listed on the Gen 5 family page (http://gen5.glock.us/)
  8. Doesn’t have Gen 5 front strap cutout
  9. Doesn’t have the flared mag well of the Gen 5
  10. Can’t use Gen 5 mags in it without replacing base plates or modifying frame
  11. Comes with black followers in mags, not orange like Gen 5
  12. Comes with maritime spring cups, not normal spring cups like Gen 5
  13. Comes with newer ejector design (although this is starting to show up in newer Gen 5 pistols)
  14. Different slide finish process (nPVD) than Gen 5 (nDLC)

While there are a lot of common parts between them (an argument that can be made about other generations, too), the 19X is not a Gen 5 pistol.

Differences between Gen 4, Gen 5, and FBI M pistols

Glock logoHere are the differences in the ‘M’ pistols used by agencies such as the FBI, DOS/DSS, ATF, DEA, and USMS, as well as the consumer Gen 5 guns vs. the Gen 4 pistols:

  • No finger grooves.
  • Flared mag well.
  • Ambidextrous one-piece slide stop lever – on many of the ‘M’ guns, it’s also an extended ambi slide stop. That extended ambi slide stop lever is part # 33797, and is available for sale to certified armorers. It now appears that the extended ambi slide stop lever is on the Gen 5 G34.
  • Front of the slide is rounded to match the Gen 4 subcompacts and long slide models. When first introduced, the Gen 5 and ‘M’ frame weren’t beveled to match. That has since been resolved in newer Gen 5 pistols.
  • Land and groove rifling instead of polygonal
  • Gen 5 GMB (Glock Marksman Barrel) barrel has a target match crown (FBI ‘M’ guns don’t). G17 barrels cannot be swapped with other generation guns – mainly due to the differences in locking blocks and newer, longer, RSA.
  • Same style firing pin safety (angled instead of flat) as the Glock 43
  • Return to two-pin frame due to a redesign in the locking block area of the frame that removes the need for the third pin.
  • Slide lock spring similar to Glock 43 (coil vs leaf), and the slide lock is moved slightly rearward.
  • Return of cutout on bottom of front strap to assist with stripping magazine (such as due to a double feed) that were originally in Gen 1, Gen 2, and early Gen 3 full sized guns. Early prototypes did not have this cutout, which is why it’s not visible in some early pics. This cutout is on the 17, 19, and 34, but not the 26. The 26 has the extended toe similar to the MHS and 19X frames. It is also not on the Gen 5 MOS guns. Note that this was eventually removed from the Gen 5 pistols in summer 2019.
  • Tougher finish applied to the same Melonite metal treatment process. This finish is dubbed nDLC (diamond like coating) that is similar to the black nitride finish. Glock refers to it as an ion bonded finish, and will only be available on Gen 5 and M guns.
  • The upper cartouche, the flat area on the upper right grip area that show where the pistol was made, has been moved down and combined with the lower one, which contains the patent number
  • Mags have an orange mag follower
  • Mags have extended front lip to aid in reloading
  • Mags have a slightly rounded base plate (bottom front edge)
  • Initially, there were no front serrations on the regular 17 and 19, as some people claim, or as some photoshopped pictures suggest. Glock added an LCI to the guns many years ago to negate the need for press checks. Front serrations were eventually added to all Gen 5 pistols except the 19X in summer 2019.
  • ‘M’ guns come with 6 magazines. Gen 5 guns come with 3.
  • Gen 5 is available with polymer sights or several night sight variations, including factory and Ameriglo ‘Bold’ night sights. The new sights are narrower than previous models. ‘M’ guns have slightly different sights than the Bold sights. These are called the ‘Agent’ sights. Differences being FBI sights have a ‘U’ shaped notch in the read sight, whereas the Bold have a square notch. Both rear sights are serrated, and the night sights don’t have a white or colored ring around them (this is often referred to as ‘blacked out’). Both the Gen 5 Bold sights and the FBI sights are available with  a .125 orange front sight as well as a more traditional .140 width sight.
  • Glock had originally said no plans for MOS guns, but they have released the Gen 5 G17, G19, G34, and G45 in MOS configurations.
  • Glock said originally that the Gen5’s will only be offered in 9mm, but São Paulo Police Department (Brazil) has deployed the Gen 5 G22, which includes a manual safety like the 17S and MHS pistols.
  • New striker, but same spring cups, spring, and sleeve
  • New extractor
  • New slide cover plate
  • New trigger mechanism housing
  • New trigger bar, but the Gen 4 dimple is removed (since the Gen 5 went to the angled trigger safety, the dimple is no longer needed)
  • Gen 5 doesn’t use the ‘S’ shaped coil trigger spring, like the previous generations, instead going to a setup like the slimlines
  • G19 and G26 come with a smooth trigger (like the 17) instead of the previous grooved trigger.
  • FBI ‘M’ guns have the nDLC finish on some internals including the trigger bar, connector, and slide stop lever,  Gen 5 guns do not. Also, ‘M’ guns that went to a select few agencies do not have the nDLC treated internals. It’s easy to spot the difference, as the nDLC finished internals are jet black. Not gray.
  • ‘M’ guns appear to have an extended and rounded mag catch as stock, vs. a normal mag catch for the Gen 5 guns
  • Gen 5 are currently available in black, FDE, and gray, although the FDE and gray guns were early Gen 5 with the non beveled frame, and front cutout. ‘M’ guns are available in several color molded frames.
    • Black is standard issued to all agents.
    • BFG is issued to FBI SWAT
    • FDE is issued to FBI HRT
  • Gen 5 guns have a ‘5’ rollmark on the top of the barrel. ‘M’ guns have an ‘M’ or ‘5M’.
  • Gen 5 G34 doesn’t have the cutout on the top of the slide like previous version, yet still maintains good balance due to a re-engineering of the materials used in the slide.
  • Gen 5 pistols have a rail that uses the 1913 picatinny dimensions.
  • Gen 5 G19 and G45 are available in TB versions, with factory threaded barrels and Ameriglo suppressor sights.
  • Newer production Gen 5 pistols have an enhanced breech cut that greatly improves ejection of spent casings. I’ve not seen this new breech cut on any of the ‘M’ guns.

The new mags will work in previous generation pistols, and vise versa, with the exception of the 21SF with picatinny rail & ambi mag catch, and the 19X.

Keep in mind that the ‘M’ pistols are Glock’s specific response to the FBI requirements for a new pistol. Just because any of these features exist on these guns does not mean that they will appear in any other non-‘M’ guns in the future.

The following pictures of the Gen 5 G26 and G34 are from Glock.

The Wish List

Glock logoThis is a running list of things I’m actively looking for. This is a a living post and will be updated as needed. If you have any of these items and are looking to part with them, or know where I can obtain them, please contact me. All firearms transactions MUST go through an FFL.

Note: Items that are strikethrough are items I’ve purchased but have not yet received.

Pistols

These are publicly released pistols that I’m actively looking for. Many are fairly hard to find. I prefer those pistols with original case, including matching case label, and all case contents (loader, brush, rod, lock, correct manual/packet, spent casing, etc.). But I’m willing to discuss any opportunity.

Gen 1

  1. Glock 17 Gen 1 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  2. Glock 17 Gen 1 chambered in 9×21 IMI with “CAT. 5180” stamp

Gen 2

  1. Glock 17 Gen 2 chambered in 9×21 IMI with “CAT. 5180” stamp
  2. Glock 20 Gen 2
  3. Glock 20CC Gen 2 – must include original case with matching label
  4. Glock 21C Gen 2
  5. Glock 21CC Gen 2 – must include original case with matching label
  6. Glock 22CC Gen 2 – must include original case with matching label
  7. Glock 23C Gen 2
  8. Glock 23CC Gen 2 – must include original case with matching label
  9. Glock 29 Gen 2
  10. Glock 30 Gen 2
  11. Glock 31 Gen 2
  12. Glock 31CC Gen 2 – must include original case with matching label
  13. Glock 32 Gen 2
  14. Glock 32CC Gen 2 – must include original case with matching label

Gen 2.5

  1. Glock 20 Gen 2.5
  2. Glock 20CC Gen 2.5 – must include original case with matching label
  3. Glock 21C Gen 2.5
  4. Glock 29 Gen 2.5
  5. Glock 30 Gen 2.5

Gen 3

  1. Glock 17 Gen 3 chambered in 9×21 IMI with “CAT. 5180” stamp
  2. Glock 17 Gen 3 chambered in 9×21 IMI without “CAT. 5180” stamp (just caliber)
  3. Glock 19 Gen 3 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  4. Glock 20C Gen 3
  5. Glock 21C Gen 3
  6. Glock 21TB Gen 3
  7. Glock 24C Gen 3
  8. Glock 26 Gen 3 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  9. Glock 35C Gen 3 – even though there were only 2 of these made, and they’re both owned by a collector I know, I can always wish, right?
  10. Glock 43 Gen 3 chambered in 9×21 IMI

RTF2

  1. Glock 22C RTF2 (no gills)
  2. Glock 22C RTF2
  3. Glock 23C RTF2 (no gills)
  4. Glock 30 RTF2 FDE – yes, I know only 2 were made and one of them is in a museum….
  5. Glock 31 RTF2 (no gills)
  6. Glock 32 RTF2 (no gills)

Gen 4

  1. Glock 17 Gen 4 chambered in 9×21 IMI with “CAT. 5180” stamp
  2. Glock 17 Gen 4 chambered in 9×21 IMI without “CAT. 5180” stamp (just caliber)
  3. Glock 17C Gen 4 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  4. Glock 17 FTO Gen 4 chambered in 9×21 IMI (120mm-long threaded barrel)
  5. Glock 17 LCS Gen 4 chambered in 9×21 IMI (milled slide cuts)
  6. Glock 19 Gen 4 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  7. Glock 19 Gen 4 MOS chambered in 9×21 IMI
  8. Glock 19C Gen 4 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  9. Glock 19 FTO Gen 4 chambered in 9×21 IMI (threaded barrel)
  10. Glock 20C Gen 4
  11. Glock 21C Gen 4 (European only)
  12. Glock 26 Gen 4 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  13. Glock 31C Gen 4 (European only)
  14. Glock 34 Gen 4 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  15. Glock 41 Gen 4

Crossover

  1. Glock 19X TB
  2. Glock 19X chambered in 9×21 IMI
  3. Glock 45 Gen 5
  4. Glock 45 Gen 5 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  5. Glock 45 Gen 5 TB (factory threaded barrel and suppressor sights)

Gen 5

  1. Glock 17 Gen 5 built for special forces, milled specifically for the Delta Point Pro optic (PA175A202MOS3)
  2. Glock 17 Gen 5 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  3. Glock 19 Gen 5 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  4. Glock 19 Gen 5 TB (factory threaded barrel and suppressor sights)
  5. Glock 22 Gen 5 with manual safety (Brazil only)
  6. Glock 26 Gen 5 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  7. Glock 34 Gen 5
  8. Glock 34 Gen 5 MOS FS chambered in 9×21 IMI
  9. Glock 44 Gen 5
  10. Glock 47 Gen 5 CBP/USSS SOD

M pistols

  1. Glock 17M FDE – issued to FBI HRT
  2. Glock 17M OD – issued to FBI regional SWAT
  3. Glock 19M FDE – issued to FBI HRT
  4. Glock 19M OD – issued to FBI regional SWAT

Slimline pistols

  1. Glock 43 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  2. Glock 43X silver slide
  3. Glock 43X chambered in 9×21 IMI
  4. Glock 43X Rail
  5. Glock 43X Rail chambered in 9×21 IMI
  6. Glock 48 silver slide
  7. Glock 48 chambered in 9×21 IMI
  8. Glock 48 Rail
  9. Glock 48 Rail chambered in 9×21 IMI

Misc Pistols including imports

  1. Glock Tactical (‘Tactical’ written on the right side of the frame. I believe these were marketed for the Philippines)
  2. Glock 17DK/19DK – Danish pistols with extended barrel
  3. Glock 23 Apache Instructor Pilot Model
  4. Glock 17MB/19MB/21MB – Gen 3 ambi mag release pistols from Europe. Not sure if the 21MB is the same 21SF pistol with ambi mag release and picatinny rail that was briefly available here in the U.S.. I suspect not. The 17MB is also available in OD.
  5. Glock 17S – G17 with manual safety used in Tanzania, New Zealand, Israel, Pakistan, and South America
  6. Glock 17 Pro – produced for Finland, with threaded barrel, maritime spring cups, extended slide stop lever, 4.5lb connector, night sights, +2 mag extensions, and redesigned mag release.
  7. Glock 17AO – Australian Gen 3 G17 with threaded barrel, in Olive Drab (GLOCK17AO)
  8. Glock 25
  9. Glock 25TB
  10. Glock 28

Special Purpose / Training Pistols

  1. Glock 17 Gen 5 Cutaway
  2. Glock 17P Gen 5 (full red)
  3. Glock 17T FX/FOF Gen 4
  4. Glock 17T FX/FOF Gen 5
  5. Glock 17T UTM Gen 3
  6. Glock 17T UTM Gen 4
  7. Glock 19 Gen 5 Cutaway
  8. Glock 19P Gen 3
  9. Glock 19T FX/FOF Gen 3
  10. Glock 19T FX/FOF Gen 4
  11. Glock 19T FX/FOF Gen 5
  12. Glock 19T UTM Gen 3 (released 2017, IIRC)
  13. Glock 20 Gen 2 Cutaway
  14. Glock 20 Gen 3 Cutaway
  15. Glock 22 Gen 2 cutaway
  16. Glock 23 Gen 2 Cutaway
  17. Glock 23P Gen 3
  18. Glock 26P
  19. Glock 26 Gen 3 Cutaway
  20. Glock 45P Gen 5 (full red)

Non Factory Commemorative Pistols

  1. Glock 19 Talo Premier Gold Edition
  2. Glock 23 Talo Premier Gold Edition

Commemorative Pistols

  1. Glock 19 & 26 “Defense Set” w/ presentation case or just the presentation case
  2. Glock 22 FBI “100th Anniversary” w/ presentation case (or without the presentation case, as I now have a case). See Glock 22 FBI 100th Anniversary
  3. Glock 23 “Homeland Defender” w/ light
  4. Glock 17 “Homeland Defender” w/ light
  5. Glock 23 Gen 2 “Kiowa Warrior Commemorative” (only 26 made – with USAxxx serial)
  6. Glock 19C Gen 3 Operation Enduring Freedom (“OEF-XV11 2011-2012” on the slide)
  7. Glock 19 Mariner (minus connector & maritime spring cups & “Mariner” on right side of slide – believe only available in Philippines)
  8. Glock 19 Tactical. ‘Tactical’ on the right side of these pistols made for the Philippines.
  9. Any of the pistols from the ELP program. I already have one of them, but looking for more. See Hand Engraved And Gold Inlaid Factory Glocks for more info.
  10. Any of the 30th anniversary pistols. See A Year of Perfection.
  11. Detroit PD marked Glock 23. I have a matching G22 and G27 and would like to complete the set.
  12. Glock 17 Gen 3 GSSF 10th Anniversary “GSSF/Ten Years of Safe Shooting 1991–2001”
  13. Glock 19 made for the Vatican
  14. Glock 23 Apache Instructor Pilot
  15. Glock 23 Gen 3 “America’s Heroes”
  16. Glock 19 Gen 2 Fraternal Order of Police “1989 Inaugural Model”. See this photo.
  17. Glock 23 Gen 2 “50th Anniversary of Bell Helicopter”
  18. Glock 27 Gen 3 “40 years of Alaska Statehood 1959–1999”
  19. Glock 22 Gen 3 “NRA”

Miscellaneous

Here are the various non-pistol items that I’m looking for.

Glock Tactical Lights

  1. Glock Tactical Light GTL-11 (light w/ dimmer)
  2. Glock Tactical Light GTL-51 (IR light & IR laser)
  3. Glock Tactical Light GTL-52 (IR light & IR laser w/ dimmer)

Glock Knives

  1. Glock 81 knife – GSSF 25th Anniversary (engraved blade). See these pictures.
  2. The Glock 78 ‘Perfection Desert Storm’ knife used in some of the Desert Storm display cases. See these photos.
  3. Any of the other Glock 78 or 81 knives with the old round Glock logo on the blade and/or sheath except for black 78 & OD 81. See the example on the left in this photo and on the right in this photo.
  4. Either of the Zeitler 76 or Zeitler 77 knives. These are the precursors to the 78 and 81 knives.
  5. Glock 78 knife with current logo – gray
  6. Glock 81 from Malaysian military with VAT 69 Kommando logo on blade and sheath

Accessories/Parts

  1. Purple label case – Current gen case with fully intact purple label. Case can be otherwise empty.
  2. Green label case – Current gen case with fully intact green label. Case can be otherwise empty.
  3. Orange Glock 17 and 20 training mags. I currently have the orange training mags for the 19, 21, 22, 23. So I’m open to orange training mags in other models not listed here.
  4. Glock warranty card, Form US 003 – 04/88, without any writing in the serial number boxes
  5. Glock Operation Desert Storm display case and related items. See this picture. I have the pistol and mags. Looking for everything else.
  6. Glock mag loaders marked ‘4832’. I need 6 of them. See this picture.
  7. Glock staked front sights in excellent condition. I need 4-6 of them. See this picture.
  8. Some of the original plastic thread protectors for the TB pistols. I bought a couple of used TB guns and they didn’t come with them.
  9. Glock disassembly tool (olive)
  10. Laser filters (all of them)
  11. Dummy barrels (all of them)
  12. Lanyard clips (black)

Printed Materials

Glock Autopistols magazine. I have extras of 1995, 2012, and 2013 to trade/sell. I need the following issues:

  1. 1996
  2. 1997
  3. 1998
  4. 1999
  5. 2000
  6. 2002
  7. 2005
  8. 2006
  9. 2007
  10. 2008
  11. 2009
  12. 2011
  13. 2014
  14. 2015
  15. 2017
  16. 2018

Bullet In magazine – this was a magazine sent only to stocking dealers. I’ll take any issues.

Glock Armorer’s manuals. Not the aftermarket ones. I need the following:

  1. 1985
  2. 1986
  3. 1987
  4. 1988
  5. 1989
  6. 1990
  7. 1993
  8. 1994
  9. 1995
  10. 1996
  11. 1998
  12. 1999
  13. 2001
  14. 2003
  15. 2004
  16. 2005
  17. 2006
  18. 2007
  19. 2008
  20. 2010
  21. 2011

Glock Annual magazine. I have every issue, so I don’t need any. But I have extras of the following issues to trade/sell.

  1. 1996
  2. 1997
  3. 1998
  4. 2001

Glock Report magazine. I need all issues before 2011 issue 1, with the exception of 2007 issue 2, which I have. I have extras of the following to trade/sell:

  1. 2012-2
  2. 2013-1
  3. 2013-2
  4. 2014-1
  5. 2014-2
  6. 2015-1
  7. 2015-2
  8. 2016-2
  9. 2017-1